tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137677673775151256.post5428782481900930045..comments2024-03-28T10:31:55.774-07:00Comments on The Passing Tramp: Listen to Your Mother(s) 3: Women Writers and Detective in Nineteenth-Century Crime Fiction (2010), by Lucy Sussex, Part TwoThe Passing Tramphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09830680639601570152noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137677673775151256.post-72526854165231356742016-05-17T00:32:42.458-07:002016-05-17T00:32:42.458-07:00I can just remember the Dark Shadows craze and lov...I can just remember the Dark Shadows craze and love the Gothic. The next part coming soon, glad you are enjoying, I learned a lot from Lucy Sussex's book.The Passing Tramphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09830680639601570152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137677673775151256.post-88586650169077232932016-05-16T19:20:35.065-07:002016-05-16T19:20:35.065-07:00When i was growing up, i was addicted to gothic no...When i was growing up, i was addicted to gothic novels. The spooky manor homes perched on 50ft cliffs, the wild raging surf below fuelled my imagination. Disappointed that Julian Symons gives such short shift to this genre. I'm not familiar with Ann Radcliffe's books but i will rectify that asap. Wonderful informative articles, looking forward to part lll.Icewineannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14776939780646674705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137677673775151256.post-10338656643948132192016-05-10T00:33:22.061-07:002016-05-10T00:33:22.061-07:00Whoops, should be 18th and 19th centuries. To wri...Whoops, should be 18th and 19th centuries. To write about the 29th century would be yet more impressive!The Passing Tramphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09830680639601570152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137677673775151256.post-54461877061974613292016-05-10T00:30:55.650-07:002016-05-10T00:30:55.650-07:00To quote Sussex, Female Gothic is "a style of...To quote Sussex, Female Gothic is "a style of writing not gender-prescriptive, for men could write in this mode too."<br /><br />I think it's interesting to go back and look at the seeds of crime, mystery and detective fiction in the 18th and 29th century. The book takes an interesting look at the elements of detection in these early works. Of course the author goes into much more detail than I do here!The Passing Tramphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09830680639601570152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137677673775151256.post-41394122498466341462016-05-09T19:41:44.798-07:002016-05-09T19:41:44.798-07:00the logical, ratiocinative search for a criminal h...<em>the logical, ratiocinative search for a criminal has no place in the Male Gothic.</em><br /><br />It's a bit of a stretch to see Radcliffe's heroines as logical and ratiocinative. Admittedly my reading of Radcliffe was quite a while back.<br /><br />I'm not sure there's such a thing as Male Gothic or Female Gothic. Obviously Radcliffe and Lewis were very different in their approaches. There was definitely a major difference between the supernatural gothic school and the non-supernatural school but I'm not convinced that the sex of the authors had anything to do with it. dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137677673775151256.post-82100856889047502402016-05-09T19:14:59.594-07:002016-05-09T19:14:59.594-07:00If you're going to regard Moll Flanders, the N...If you're going to regard <em>Moll Flanders</em>, the Newgate Calendar, newspaper reportage and the Gothic novel as ancestral crime fiction then why not include <em>Oedipus Rex, Macbeth</em> and the Biblical story of Cain and Abel? She's casting her net so widely that the definition of crime fiction becomes meaningless.<br /><br />In fact the term crime fiction has very little meaning anyway. It's not really a genre. You might as well say that Shakespeare, Tolstoy (<em>Anna Karenina</em>) and Hemingway (<em>A Farewell To Arms</em>) were all romance writers.<br /><br />Detective fiction on the other hand is an actual genre. If it doesn't have actual detection it isn't a detective story.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137677673775151256.post-43369445623926677632016-05-09T09:59:51.693-07:002016-05-09T09:59:51.693-07:00Cool, will have to check that one out!Cool, will have to check that one out!The Passing Tramphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09830680639601570152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137677673775151256.post-31125339353963779402016-05-09T01:31:51.196-07:002016-05-09T01:31:51.196-07:00Zofloya by Charlotte Dacre (available in the OUP&#...Zofloya by Charlotte Dacre (available in the OUP's World's Classics), published in 1806, is an entertaining example of Bad Girl Gothic, with a heroine every bit as depraved as The Monk,Roger Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11012987757094423896noreply@blogger.com