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James H. Cox |
James H. Cox is an associate professor of English at the University of Texas at Austin.
He is the author of
Muting White Noise: Native American and European Novel Traditions (University of Oklahoma Press, 2009) and
The Red Land to the South: American Indian Writers and Indigenous Mexico (University of Minnesota Press, 2012).
In two chapters of the latter work,
The Red Land to the South, Professor Cox discusses the writing of
Todd Downing (1902-1974), the Oklahoma Choctaw Golden Age detective novelist who published nine mysteries of his own between 1933 and 1941, in addition to reviewing several hundred mysteries in the 1930s.
Todd Downing is the subject of my own
Clues and Corpses: The Detective Fiction and Mystery Criticism of Todd Downing (Coachwhip, 2013). Moreover, eight of Todd Downing's nine detective novels (including his highly praised
The Cat Screams, 1934, and
Vultures in the Sky, 1935) were reprinted by Coachwhip in 2012, and the remaining title,
Murder on Tour (1933), will be reprinted this March.
For previous posts discussing Todd Downing and another Oklahoma crime writer,
Jim Thompson, see A Tale of Two Citizens,
Part One and
Part Two.
Professor Cox was kind enough sit down with The Passing Tramp for an interview about Todd Downing. I hope you enjoy it!
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Todd Downing |
Curt Evans: In
The Red Land to the South, you
call Todd Downing “
one of the most prolific and most neglected American Indian
writers of the twentieth century.”
Three questions: Why do you think he is important, why
do you think he has been neglected and how did you become interested in him and
his work?
James Cox: From my position as a scholar of American Indian
literature, Downing is important as a writer who depicts contemporary
Indigenous American people in a popular genre.
As anyone who watches
television or regularly goes to the movies knows, nineteenth century American
Indians are far more prevalent in popular and mass culture than
contemporary Native people--particularly urban Indigenous people like the ones
Downing sometimes represents. Downing's novels, though, show
Indigenous people living in the modern world. It is much easier to ignore the
civil and human rights of Indigenous people if you believe, (1) that they have
disappeared, and/or, (2) that once they are modern they are no longer really
Indigenous.
Downing's neglect in part has to do with the fact that his
books went out of print so quickly. Research has become much easier now with
the presence of on-line book dealers!
Downing's neglect in American Indian literary
studies is curious, though. He was fairly well-known in Oklahoma. He lived into
the 1970s, too, and scholars have had at least a little familiarity with him since then.
However, literary scholars have only recently--say
in the last twenty years--started to think critically about popular genres like
detective fiction or science fiction. Downing also didn't write about the kinds of
American Indians that were interesting to many scholars: not the nineteenth
century Plains Indians of so many Hollywood movies, but the activists and otherwise
politically engaged Native people of the civil rights era. Downing was working
against the grain of multiple trends, both popular and academic.
I became interested in his work when I started
writing my second book. I had read several works by American Indian writers
about Mexico and Indigenous Mexican people. I ran across a reference to
The Mexican
Earth, bought a copy, and read it in one sitting.
I confess to appreciating
the politics of the book, that is, his passionate defense of Indigenous Mexicans. It is a
great book in other ways, though. Downing writes in a clear style. He is clever
and funny and often just this side of scandalous. He is very good at depicting the Mexican
landscape as well. I bought his novels, then, whenever I could find an
inexpensive copy. I read Vultures in the Sky first and was completely
hooked.
I enjoyed Downing's mastery of the conventions of detective fiction--classical
British rather than hard-boiled American--but particularly liked the Mexican
settings and, of course, the presence of Indigenous peoples and Downing's
consideration of the social and political issues that shaped in part their
mid-twentieth century lives (manual labor; health; the theft of remains and
artifacts).
Finally, Downing is simply a fascinating person: the
Indian Territory-born, fluent Choctaw speaking son of a Choctaw politician who
was a Professor of Spanish, a tour guide, an employee of several East Coast
advertising agencies, and a novelist.
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Atoka, Oklahoma county officials and courthouse employees, c. 1910.
County Treasurer Henry Bond, a full-blood Choctaw and friend of
Sam Downing, Todd Downing's father, is seen in the center of the photograph. |
Curt Evans: Downing’s
sense of humor comes out in his book reviews as well. I agree, it’s very
appealing.
The
Mexican settings of most of Downing’s detective novels seem to me his signature
contribution to Golden Age detective fiction. In his day especially, such
intensive exploration of the culture of a foreign country—England excepted, of
course!--in an American detective novel seems remarkable.
Although
many people still seem disinclined to embrace mystery literature as a serious
art form, as you point out, I know you would agree with me that Downing,
despite his sense of humor and modesty, felt strongly about a number of
important issues and intentionally used the mystery form to explore these
issues, just as writers did in mainstream literature.
In The Red Land to the South you discuss Downing’s second published and path-breaking detective novel, The Cat Screams, at considerable length. You argue that
in this book “Downing disguises a story of indigenous resistance and
revolutionary promise within a conventional story of detection.” I think
that’s very well-put. In fact, I quote it in my own book! Could you
expand on this idea a bit here? Without spoilers, of course!
James Cox: There is a funny but also
serious scene in The Mexican Earth during which Downing stops to give a
ride to two Indigenous Mexican farm workers. He describes other cars with U.S.
license plates driving by the farm workers at high speeds. Inside the cars he
sees startled faces. The next day at a hotel, another American says he thought
Downing had been accosted by Communist agitators. Downing humanizes Indigenous
Mexicans and the working class while suggesting that many Americans do not
understand either Mexico or Indigenous Mexicans.
Thank you very much for the kind words about my
reading of
The Cat Screams! Downing does such a wonderful job in the
novel describing the American colony in Taxco.
To avoid spoilers, I'll just say
that the novel contains two overlapping mysteries. The first is the
conventional mystery that Rennert investigates. The second is not a
conventional mystery but a political, cultural, and historical mystery about
Indigenous Mexican people in the modern world. The reference to a revival of
Native practices and curanderas in the opening newspaper article begins this
part of the narrative. The meaning of a word in Nahuatl -- or what I recently
learned speakers of the language usually call Mexicanoh (thank you, Adam Coon)
-- is also important. There is a jade mask of an Aztec god that is important,
too.
All the references to Indigenous Mexican people form a set of clues. I
propose one reading of these clues, but I'm sure other readers will have better
ones!
Curt Evans: Well,
I personally think you show how The Cat Screams is really an exceptionally
sophisticated Golden Age detective novel.
I
found the depth of the novel quite fascinating on rereading it. There are
these two worlds, this outer one of these American tourists and expatriates and
Mexicans of European lineage and then this inner world of indigenous people
that eludes so many of the other characters, who are either hostile to it or
simply indifferent and superior. Hugh Rennert, of course, is interested
in it, because, like Downing he is fascinated with Mexican culture and believes
it has something to tell him about life.
It’s
a cliché to talk about mystery novels that “transcend the genre” but I think in
The Cat Screams Downing does show how you can combine a complex
mystery plot with thematic depth. Do you feel he was able to do this in
other detective novels as well? Personally, I find the one he published
after The Cat Screams, Vultures in the Sky, another really fascinating story in its
depiction of Mexico, not to mention that’s it’s simply a thrilling book, one of
the most tense mysteries I have read!
James Cox: Yes, I agree, The Cat
Screams is a rewarding mystery that also encourages readers to think about
the colonial history of the Americas and the conflict between Europeans and
Indigenous people. I can't emphasize enough, too, how unusual and important it
is that Downing represents Indigenous people as maintaining their sense of who
they are as Indigenous while they are also fully participating in the modern
world.
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the 2012 Coachwhip edition |
This last observation is a good segue into
Vultures
in the Sky [note: see my review of this novel
here--TPT], in which an Indigenous man plays a small but important part as
a porter on a Pullman. Downing creates another complex -- and, yes, an exciting
and tense! -- plot involving a kidnapping, rumors of a Pullman strike, and the
Cristero Rebellion.
Downing is attentive to the labor of the working
classes (waitresses, cooks, and servants as well as the porter and Indigenous
people selling food and small items at train stations or by the side of the
road), and the Cristero Rebellion is a horrifying but in the
U.S. not very well-known part of Mexican history--I don't know how much the
recent Andy Garcia and Eva Longoria film helped!
Yes, then, I would say that he writes very
clever mysteries in which he embeds observations about the social and cultural
worlds produced by Spanish colonialism, U.S. interventions in Mexico, and the
general economic climate of the 1930s.
Murder on the Tropic is also one
of my favorite Downing mysteries. Like Vultures in the Sky, Murder on the Tropic
has a wonderful and diverse cast of characters, and Downing situates the plot
in a precise historical moment: during the construction of the Pan American
Highway in Mexico.
Downing is also almost always thinking about the U.S./Mexico
border -- especially in The Last Trumpet -- in a way that resonates
today. In fact, we should remember that there were mass deportations of Mexican
nationals and Mexican Americans in the 1930s, when Downing was publishing these
novels. His apparent sympathy for Mexico and Mexican people can be understood
in that historical context.
Murder on the Tropic includes a reference to the murder of two young Mexican men in
Ardmore, Oklahoma on
June 8, 1931. Downing chose not to take a tour group to
Mexico that summer and, apparently, stayed home and started writing
Murder
on Tour. His career as an author of mystery novels, therefore, appears to
have its origins in a real act of fatal racial profiling. This dark side of
racial conflict within the U.S. and Mexico and between the two countries is a
sub-text that runs throughout his novels.
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Ardmore, Oklahoma today |
Curt Evans: Yes, I think Downing
was rather conflicted about Oklahoma. In some ways he had a conservative,
small-town upbringing and I think some of this “stuck”; yet he was repelled by
the Ardmore killings, as you point out, and more generally by the parochialism
and anti-intellectualism of Oklahoma in the 1930s.
For a while he did
relocate to the Northeast, like his sister had before him, but, as you know, he
came back to Atoka and spent the last twenty years of his life there, teaching
at Atoka high school and later Southeastern Oklahoma University. And he
was buried beside his parents and maternal grandmother in Atoka, though today
there’s no special recognition of him there, which seems a shame.
I too found Vultures
in the Sky so evocative of a time and place. When I was young, my family
made several trips—not by train, sadly, but by car—to Mexico City, along a
similar route to that described in Vultures. Reading the novel really
took me back. The way Downing describes those lonely little train
stations in the heat and those Indigenous street vendors (I remember the latter
so well too), it’s extremely effective.
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Edward Powys Mathers ("Torquemada") |
All the Rennert novels
were published in England and it’s interesting to see that
Downing's books got excellent reviews not only in the United States but England
as well, with comments from reviewers about how well-written and
atmospheric they are. The critic
Edward Powys Mathers, known as
“
Torquemada” for his fiendish crossword puzzles, wrote that Todd Downing was “
a
born detective story writer” and compared him to
Matthew Arnold, in terms
of his technique for revealing hidden aspects of his characters’ personalities.
I’m looking right now
at a review of another Downing novel that you praise—and I definitely agree
with your praise--Murder on the Tropic.
This review is from a
newspaper in Tasmania.
I think everyone will
agree that Mr. Downing is a good writer of good detective stories,” the
reviewer starts out, then: “As a well-told crime and detective story I regard
this as one of the really masterly ones. But, as well as the plot and its
unraveling, there is a remarkably vivid description of the Mexican
landscape.
There’s the double
praise again, for the plotting and the purely literary quality.
Yet by the late 1940s, Downing’s novels all are out of print. They would
stay out of print for some sixty years. Now eight of them are back in
print and the ninth will soon follow.
Do you think there’s a chance now
that, with the reprinting of Downing’s books and reviews and your own book,
Downing's name will become more familiar to people as a writer well worth
reading, an entertainer who also has notable things to say in his
entertainments?
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Dutch edition of The Cat Screams |
James Cox: I'm so glad to see you
emphasize that Downing had an international reputation. His books were
translated into Dutch, Finnish, Italian, and Spanish, at least. An edition of
Murder
on the Tropic (
La Luce Gialla) was in print in Italy as
late as 1958, and an edition of
Vultures in the Sky (
Il
Terribile Viaggio) was in print in Italy, too, as late as 1977. So the
Italians appear to have appreciated him more than we have!
I once found a copy
of
Vultures in the Sky in Spanish (
Buitres in el Cielo) in
Brazil. He made it to Tasmania, apparently, too. I would love to know if his
reputation in these other countries endures into the early twenty-first
century.
I'm optimistic that Downing will become more
well-known. I sure hope so. A major problem was that his books were
inaccessible, and the new editions thankfully remedy that issue and make it
possible for teachers to assign his books.
Downing's novels have the potential to
interest a broad audience that includes general readers as well as scholars of
American literature. There is a little something (literary, cultural,
historical, borderlands, transnational, American Indian, Mexican, Indigenous
Mexican) for everyone in the novels.
Curt Evans: I like your optimistic assessment. Thank you so much for the interview, Jim. By the way, this blog has a few Italian readers who have read Todd Downing, which bears out your comments. Let's hope his readership expands all round!
James Cox: Thank you so much again for this chance to talk about Downing!